In this thought-provoking episode, we tackle the controversial question posed by YouTuber and self-defense coach, Icy Mike: Listen in as we explore the idea of needing to work through lots of things in martial arts and how the culture of having to pay for levels or black belts can be seen as a form of ‘participation trophies’. We also discuss the concept of ‘Go Hard or Go Home’ and how this can be seen as a way of taking responsibility for students quitting due to unsafe gym environments.
We then venture into the realm of the the Dunning-Kruger effect in martial arts, including the peak of Mount Stupid and the valley of despair. Hear about my personal journey through this effect and its impact on my training. We touch on the importance of not overstepping as a student in martial arts classes, and the idea that pride can be bruised when someone tries to teach instead of learn. Finally, we talk about the importance of basics in martial arts training and explore different approaches to training for real problem-solving. This episode is packed with insights and reflections that will surely resonate with martial arts practitioners and enthusiasts alike.
Dunning-Kruger and the Delusions of Martial Arts Training
In this episode, the controversial question of whether combat sport coaches telling their clients to just keep showing up is “despicable” is explored. The culture of paying for levels and black belts is discussed, as well as the idea of “Go Hard or Go Home” and taking responsibility for students quitting due to unsafe gym environments. The Dunning-Kruger effect in martial arts, including the peak of Mount Stupid and the valley of despair, is examined. The importance of not overstepping as a student, the impact of pride, and the significance of basics in martial arts training are also discussed. Additionally, different approaches to training for real problem solving are explored, including the concept of jujitsu and striking for self-defense, and the importance of time and filtering thoughts.
The episode offers insights and reflections that will resonate with martial arts practitioners and enthusiasts. The culture of paying for levels and black belts is compared to “participation trophies,” and the idea of “Go Hard or Go Home” is discussed in the context of taking responsibility for students’ safety. The Dunning-Kruger effect and its impact on training, including bruised pride and the importance of basics, is also explored. Different approaches to training for real problem solving are discussed, highlighting the importance of striking for self-defense and considering the amount of time one has to prepare. Overall, the episode offers thought-provoking perspectives on martial arts coaching and training.
Episode Chapters
(0:00:15) – Martial Arts Coaching
Mike questions if it’s “despicable” for combat sport coaches to tell clients to keep showing up, exploring “Go Hard or Go Home” and the culture of paying for levels and black belts.
(0:15:01) – Dunning Kruger Effect in Martial Arts
The Dunning-Kruger effect, Mount Stupid, the valley of despair, pride, basics in martial arts training are discussed.
(0:23:47) – Training for Real Problem Solving
Jujitsu, striking, self defense, time, Dunning-Kruger effect, filter.
(0:00:15) – Martial Arts Coaching (15 Minutes)
A YouTuber and self defense coach, Mike, posed the question of whether it’s ‘despicable’ for combat sport coaches to tell their clients that they just need to keep showing up. We explore the idea of needing to work through lots of things in martial arts and how the culture of having to pay for levels and black belts can be seen as a form of ‘participation trophies’. We also look at the idea of ‘Go Hard or Go Home’ and how this can be seen as a way of taking responsibility for students quitting due to unsafe gym environments.
(0:15:01) – Dunning Kruger Effect in Martial Arts (9 Minutes)
The Dunning-Kruger effect is explored, including the peak of Mount Stupid and the valley of despair. My journey through this effect and its impact on training is discussed. Not overstepping as a student in martial arts classes, and the idea that pride can be bruised when someone tries to teach instead of learn, is also explored. The importance of basics in martial arts training is talked about.
(0:23:47) – Training for Real Problem Solving (9 Minutes)
Jocko offers an approach based on the concept of jujitsu, while Dave suggests the importance of striking. I consider both approaches and discuss how striking is necessary for self defense, especially when the opponent is clothed. I also recommend considering the amount of time one has to prepare, as well as the Dunning-Kruger effect and the importance of running thoughts through a filter of whether it needs to be said now.
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